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Poster: zebra42 Date: Apr 12, 2008 9:11am
Forum: web Subject: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

Can someone tell me with any certainty the earliest date of the archive.org (wayback machine) link listed below? This was from a search of a range of dates, and I wish to determine if the link indicates the date it was achived.

http://web.archive.org/web/19990101000000-20000815235959/http://spammotel.com:8080/spammotel/more.html

NOTE: IMPORTANT: I was only able to find this page using the range option in Advanced mode. For some reason all other methods cause the input to pull up a later page. Why is this?

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Poster: kustota Date: Apr 12, 2008 6:41pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

maybe this is what you need:

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#202
"Not every date for every site archived is 100% complete. When you are surfing an incomplete archived site the Wayback Machine will grab the closest available date to the one you are in for the links that are missing. In the event that we do not have the link archived at all, the Wayback Machine will look for the link on the live web and grab it if available. Pay attention to the date code embedded in the archived url. This is the list of numbers in the middle; it translates as yyyymmddhhmmss. For example in this url http://web.archive.org/web/20000229123340/http://www.yahoo.com/ the date the site was crawled was Feb 29, 2000 at 12:33 and 40 seconds."

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Poster: zebra42 Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:54pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

Hi, thank you for replying, but note the numbers embedded in the link I posted: 19990101000000-20000815235959.

Notice that it starts with 19990101000000 followed by a hyphen (unlike the example you give). My question is what is the meaning of the first set of numbers, and what is the meaning of the second set 20000815235959 (which I am guessing is the date August 15, 2000).

Note that this link was obtained by doing a date "range" search, and that when my search was changed to a date earlier than the 15th, no results came back. Can you, or anyone please, clarify this?

Important: attempts by me to have this archived page show up in any way other than by this hyphenated link have been unsuccessful. Using only the format you give as an example: 20000815235959 does not work. But shouldn't it?

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Poster: kustota Date: Apr 14, 2008 4:18am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

as i understand, those two sets of numbers divided by hyphens are two date/time codes that are range of your search.

and guess what is written in the end of that page's code?

// FILE ARCHIVED ON 19991024115959 AND RETRIEVED FROM THE
// INTERNET ARCHIVE ON 20080414111832.
// JAVASCRIPT APPENDED BY WAYBACK MACHINE, COPYRIGHT INTERNET ARCHIVE.
// ALL OTHER CONTENT MAY ALSO BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT (17 U.S.C.
// SECTION 108(a)(3)).

isn't that the information you were looking for? the date is 1999.10.24.

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Poster: WeberBob Date: May 23, 2008 3:14pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

Do all pages have such documentation?

I couldn't find it at the end of this page:

http://web.archive.org/web/19981207000716/www.inflatable2000.com/allinone.html

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Poster: kustota Date: May 23, 2008 11:17pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

to see that you need to view your page's source code. that's what was there:

// FILE ARCHIVED ON 19981207000716 AND RETRIEVED FROM THE
// INTERNET ARCHIVE ON 20080524061637.
// JAVASCRIPT APPENDED BY WAYBACK MACHINE, COPYRIGHT INTERNET ARCHIVE.
// ALL OTHER CONTENT MAY ALSO BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT (17 U.S.C.
// SECTION 108(a)(3)).

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Poster: WeberBob Date: May 24, 2008 2:56am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Very URGENT question: determining the date of archive

thanks

i couldn't find any postings on the rate of errors in the date portion of URLs pointing to archived pages. Are there date of archiving errors? How often? Circumstances?